Messages In This Digest (8 Messages)
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- Mgr Public & Media Relations - Newark NJ From: Terrence Seamon
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- Outrageous but True: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed nee From: Terrence Seamon
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- Re: Outrageous but True: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed From: Sue Brodsky
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- LEAD: BA Ref Data Futures/Options - NJ - AVP Level Pos From: john sampson
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- Direct Client Requirement - FIX Lead Systems Engineer - NYC - Long T From: Srinivas (Novost Inc)
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- Direct Client Requirement - Red Hat Linux Adminstrator - NYC - Long From: Srinivas (Novost Inc)
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- Direct Client - Data Architect/Data Modeler - NY/NJ From: Srinivas (Novost Inc)
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- My latest HR Blog Notions article From: Terrence Seamon
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Mgr Public & Media Relations - Newark NJ
Posted by: "Terrence Seamon" thseamon@yahoo.com thseamon
Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:40 am (PDT)
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Outrageous but True: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed nee
Posted by: "Terrence Seamon" thseamon@yahoo.com thseamon
Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:51 am (PDT)
Here is an article about the trend we discussed briefly at our last Saturday meeting. In my view, it's a heinous hiring practice. If it is not illegal, it is definitely immoral. Especially at a time such as this with so many people struggling to find work.
If you know any legislators, consider forwarding this to them with a note of indignation.
Terry
Terrence Seamon
(732) 246-3014 home/office
(732) 715-8218 cell
thseamon@yahoo.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/thseamon
http://twitter.com/tseamon
http://learningvoyager.blogspot. com/
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Mary Usher <m_a_usher@hotmail.com >
To: Terrence Seamon(SMCNG) <thseamon@yahoo.com >
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 8:14:55 PM
Subject: FW: [CCC] Articlke: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply (CNNMoney)
Terry
You may want to pass this article on. This supports what we discussed at SMCNG.
Blessings,
Mary Anne Usher
_____________________ _________ __
To: ericnilsson@earthlink. net
From: ericnilsson@earthlink. net
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:21:13 -0400
Subject: [CCC] Articlke: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply (CNNMoney)
Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply
Chris Isidore, senior writer, On Wednesday June 16, 2010, 4:26 am EDT
The last thing someone who is unemployed needs to be told is that they shouldn't even apply for the limited number of job openings that are available. But some companies and recruiters are doing just that.
Employment experts say they believe companies are increasingly interested only in applicants who already have a job.
"I think it is more prevalent than it used to be," said Rich Thompson, vice president of learning and performance for Adecco Group North America, the world's largest staffing firm. "I don't have hard numbers, but three out of the last four conversations I've had about openings, this requirement was brought up."
Some job postings include restrictions such as "unemployed candidates will not be considered" or "must be currently employed." Those explicit limitations have occasionally been removed from listings when an employer or recruiter is questioned by the media though.
That's what happened with numerous listings for grocery store managers throughout the Southeast posted by a South Carolina recruiter, Latro Consulting.
After CNNMoney called seeking comments on the listings last week, the restriction against unemployed candidates being considered came down. Latro Consulting refused to comment when contacted.
Sony Ericsson, a global phone manufacturer that was hiring for a new Georgia facility, also removed a similar restriction after local reporters wrote about it. According to reports, a Sony Ericsson spokesperson said that a mistake had been made.
But even if companies don't spell out in a job listing that they won't consider someone who currently doesn't have a job, experts said that unemployed applicants are typically ruled out right off the bat.
"Most executive recruiters won't look at a candidate unless they have a job, even if they don't like to admit to it," said Lisa Chenofsky Singer, a human resources consultant from Millburn, NJ, specializing in media and publishing jobs.
She said when she proposes candidates for openings, the first question she is often asked by a recruiter is if they currently have a job. If the answer is no, she's typically told the unemployed candidate won't be interviewed.
"They think you must have been laid off for performance issues," she said, adding that this is a "myth" in a time of high unemployment.
It is not against the law for companies to exclude the unemployed when trying to fill positions, but Judy Conti, a lobbyist for the National Employment Law Project, said the practice is a bad one.
"Making that kind of automatic cut is senseless; you could be missing out on the best person of all," she said. "There are millions of people who are unemployed through no fault of their own. If an employer feels that the best qualified are the ones already working, they have no appreciation of the crisis we're in right now."
Conti added that firms that hire unemployed job seekers could also benefit from a recently-passed tax break that essentially exempts them from paying the 6.2% of the new hire's wages in Social Security taxes for the rest of this year.
Thompson said he also thinks ruling out the unemployed is a bad idea. But he said that part of the problem is that recruiters and human resource departments are being overwhelmed with applications for any job opening that is posted. So they're looking for any short-cuts to get the list of applicants to consider down to a more manageable size.
"It's a tough process to determine which unemployed applicants were laid off even though they brought value to their company and which ones had performance issues," he said. "I understand the notion. But there's the top x percent of unemployed candidates who are very viable and very valuable. You just have to do the work to find them."
Have you had trouble even applying for a job because you are out of work? If so e-mail us here to tell us your story.
Retrieved 6/17/2010 from http://finance. yahoo.com/ news/Outofwork- job-applicants- told-cnnm- 3498252371. html?x=0
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Re: Outrageous but True: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed
Posted by: "Sue Brodsky" sue.brodsky@yahoo.com sue.brodsky
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:26 pm (PDT)
That was a tough article to read but I am beginning to believe it is true
From the interviews I have been on it appears once there hear you have been laid off their tone changes.
How sad for this to actually exist when as the article stated they could be missing out on great prospects
Thanks for forwarding the article
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Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 9:45:20 AM
Subject: [SMCNG] Outrageous but True: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply (CNNMoney)
Here is an article about the trend we discussed briefly at our last Saturday meeting. In my view, it's a heinous hiring practice. If it is not illegal, it is definitely immoral. Especially at a time such as this with so many people struggling to find work.
If you know any legislators, consider forwarding this to them with a note of indignation.
Terry
Terrence Seamon
(732) 246-3014 home/office
(732) 715-8218 cell
thseamon@yahoo.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/thseamon
http://twitter.com/tseamon
http://learningvoyager.blogspot. com/
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Mary Usher <m_a_usher@hotmail.com >
To: Terrence Seamon(SMCNG) <thseamon@yahoo.com >
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 8:14:55 PM
Subject: FW: [CCC] Articlke: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply (CNNMoney)
Terry
You may want to pass this article on. This supports what we discussed at SMCNG.
Blessings,
Mary Anne Usher
_____________________ _________ __
To: ericnilsson@earthlink. net
From: ericnilsson@earthlink. net
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:21:13 -0400
Subject: [CCC] Articlke: Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply (CNNMoney)
Out-of-work job applicants told unemployed need not apply
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Chris Isidore, senior writer, On Wednesday June 16, 2010, 4:26 am EDT The last thing someone who is unemployed needs to be told is that they shouldn't even apply for the limited number of job openings that are available. But some companies and recruiters are doing just that.
Employment experts say they believe companies are increasingly interested only in applicants who already have a job.
"I think it is more prevalent than it used to be," said Rich Thompson, vice president of learning and performance for Adecco Group North America, the world's largest staffing firm. "I don't have hard numbers, but three out of the last four conversations I've had about openings, this requirement was brought up."
Some job postings include restrictions such as "unemployed candidates will not be considered" or "must be currently employed." Those explicit limitations have occasionally been removed from listings when an employer or recruiter is questioned by the media though.
That's what happened with numerous listings for grocery store managers throughout the Southeast posted by a South Carolina recruiter, Latro Consulting.
After CNNMoney called seeking comments on the listings last week, the restriction against unemployed candidates being considered came down. Latro Consulting refused to comment when contacted.
Sony Ericsson, a global phone manufacturer that was hiring for a new Georgia facility, also removed a similar restriction after local reporters wrote about it. According to reports, a Sony Ericsson spokesperson said that a mistake had been made.
But even if companies don't spell out in a job listing that they won't consider someone who currently doesn't have a job, experts said that unemployed applicants are typically ruled out right off the bat.
"Most executive recruiters won't look at a candidate unless they have a job, even if they don't like to admit to it," said Lisa Chenofsky Singer, a human resources consultant from Millburn, NJ, specializing in media and publishing jobs.
She said when she proposes candidates for openings, the first question she is often asked by a recruiter is if they currently have a job. If the answer is no, she's typically told the unemployed candidate won't be interviewed.
"They think you must have been laid off for performance issues," she said, adding that this is a "myth" in a time of high unemployment.
It is not against the law for companies to exclude the unemployed when trying to fill positions, but Judy Conti, a lobbyist for the National Employment Law Project, said the practice is a bad one.
"Making that kind of automatic cut is senseless; you could be missing out on the best person of all," she said. "There are millions of people who are unemployed through no fault of their own. If an employer feels that the best qualified are the ones already working, they have no appreciation of the crisis we're in right now."
Conti added that firms that hire unemployed job seekers could also benefit from a recently-passed tax break that essentially exempts them from paying the 6.2% of the new hire's wages in Social Security taxes for the rest of this year.
Thompson said he also thinks ruling out the unemployed is a bad idea. But he said that part of the problem is that recruiters and human resource departments are being overwhelmed with applications for any job opening that is posted. So they're looking for any short-cuts to get the list of applicants to consider down to a more manageable size.
"It's a tough process to determine which unemployed applicants were laid off even though they brought value to their company and which ones had performance issues," he said. "I understand the notion. But there's the top x percent of unemployed candidates who are very viable and very valuable. You just have to do the work to find them."
Have you had trouble even applying for a job because you are out of work? If so e-mail us here to tell us your story.
Retrieved 6/17/2010 from http://finance. yahoo.com/ news/Outofwork- job-applicants- told-cnnm- 3498252371. html?x=0
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LEAD: BA Ref Data Futures/Options - NJ - AVP Level Pos
Posted by: "john sampson" jcsspike@yahoo.com jcsspike
Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:06 am (PDT)
Job Description A Major Foreign Bank Holding Company is looking for a Business Analysts Reference Data Futures/Options
In their Jersey City Office.
Skills Required Candidates with Reference Data background should come form Back Officer or Middle Office operations.
Salary Range This is a full time position for an AVP and the salary is based on experience.
How to Apply Contact Tony Savoca at Momentum Resource Solutions at asavoca@momentumrs.com and then call him at 732-738-0929.
Tony Savoca
Vice President
Director of Financial Services
Momentum Resource Solutions
1090 King Georges Post Road
Edison, NJ 08837
732-738-4700
MIS Ntwk Assoc Mtg Dates:
June 22nd - Tues - Bring 20 copies of your resume - 6 pm - NEW LOCATION - BERMAN LARSON KANE (BLK) 12 Route 17 North, Suite 209 Paramus, New Jersey 07652 - Do not use GPS - go to BLK site for directions - 201.909.0906 - plan to have dinner with us afterwards
June 29th - Recruiter Night Out Dinner mtg - Joe Gadino CSC Moderator - Diane Briggs KPMG - Joe Stefanelli Mitchell/Martin - John McKinley Morotta Controls - Janelle Razzino Razzino Associates
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Direct Client Requirement - FIX Lead Systems Engineer - NYC - Long T
Posted by: "Srinivas (Novost Inc)" srinivasg@novostinc.com ganaddini
Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:06 am (PDT)
Hello Everyone,
Rate: DOE
Location: Downtown, NYC
Duration: 6months +
Position Title: FIX Lead Systems Engineer
Experience:
. 4 - 7 Years experience managing UNIX / Linux Server
environments, (Red Hat Enterprise Linux experience required, experience with
Linux on VMware is preferred)
. 4 - 7 Years of UNIX / Linux Server management. Including OS
Installation and configuration
. 4 - 7 Years experience with the UNIX / Linux Server software
installation, configuration and tuning
Knowledge/Skills:
. Ability to install, configure and maintain Linux and IBM AIX
server Operating Systems
. Strong inter-personal and communications skills, making
presentations to an internal audience, interacting positively with upper
management
. Ability to train users in applications and UNIX / Linux
fundamentals and writing basic documentation
. Ability to troubleshoot common system problems, using all
available resources, (vendor support, online documentation), to completion
. Possess a working knowledge and skill with most aspects of UNIX
/ Linux systems administration; for example, system installation and
configuration, fundamentals of security, installing third party software
. Possess a solid knowledge of a UNIX / Linux-based operating
system; for example, understands paging and swapping, inter-process
communication, devices and what device drivers do, file system concepts
("inode", "superblock", etc.)
. Familiarity with fundamental networking/distributed computing
environment concepts; for example, can configure NFS, DNS and understands
basic routing concepts.
. Ability to write scripts in some administrative language such as
Korn/Bourne/C Shell, Perl, Tk.
. Ability to install, configure and manage storage with a Logical
Volume Manager (e.g. Linux LVM, Veritas Foundation Suite, Sun Volume
Manager, etc.)
Education/Certification/Training:
. B.S. in Computer Science or Information Systems (or related)
required
. Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT) or Red Hat Certified
Engineer (RHCE) strongly desired
Please email your complete copy of resume with contact details for
consideration.
Srinivas Ganadinni
T I 631 470 8282 F I 631 629 4704
Email - srinivasg@novostinc.com
Web - <http://www.novostconsulting. > www.novostconsultincom/ g.com
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas >ganadinni
http://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas ganadinni
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Direct Client Requirement - Red Hat Linux Adminstrator - NYC - Long
Posted by: "Srinivas (Novost Inc)" srinivasg@novostinc.com ganaddini
Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:10 am (PDT)
Hello Everyone,
Rate: DOE
Location: Downtown, NYC
Duration: 6months +
Position Title: Senior Red Hat Linux Administrator
Experience
. 5 - 7 years experience managing UNIX Server environments
. 5 - 7 years of UNIX Server management, including OS Installation
and configuration
. 5 - 7 years experience with the UNIX Server software
installation, configuration and tuning
Knowledge/Skills
. Strong project management and leadership skills.
. Ability to work independently or with a cross departmental team.
. Must have a working knowledge of the ITIL framework.
. Ability to install, configure and maintain Red Hat Linux server
Operating Systems.
. Possess an expert knowledge and skill with most aspects of UNIX
systems administration.
. Understand storage systems maintained by EMC Symmetrix (DMX) and
Clariion.
. Must be customer focused and understand the Systems
Administration needs of the organization
. Working knowledge of FIX financial protocol and NYX's Appia and
TradeScope software strongly desired.
. Working knowledge of AIX and Solaris Unix operating systems
strongly desired.
Please email your complete copy of resume with contact details for
consideration.
Srinivas Ganadinni
T I 631 470 8282 F I 631 629 4704
Email - srinivasg@novostinc.com
Web - <http://www.novostconsulting. > www.novostconsultincom/ g.com
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas >ganadinni
http://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas ganadinni
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Direct Client - Data Architect/Data Modeler - NY/NJ
Posted by: "Srinivas (Novost Inc)" srinivasg@novostinc.com ganaddini
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:26 pm (PDT)
Hello Everyone,
Rate: DOE
Location: NY/NJ
Duration: Long Term
A Senior Data Architect/Data Modeler that can be a team leader - This person
must have the following traits:
a. Aggressive
b. Outspoken and highly communicative. I cannot stress this enough.
c. Impeccable communication skills.
d. A Leader
e. Completely hands on
To help you a bit here below is an excerpt of a former employee's resume
that filled this role well:
Goal
To serve your business / technology needs by contributing my Database
Experience, Business Intelligence Expertise, and Quantitative Strength, as
well as my communication / consulting skills.
Inborn drive and passion to work with a large amount of data to discover
patterns, correlation, or abnormalities (fraud) and to predict future trends
by using a variety of methods and tools (Algorithm, Statistics, Mathematical
modeling, Data Warehouse / BI, Data Mining, VB/SQL Programming ... )
TECHNICAL SUMMARY
Computer, Math, and Finance . Data Warehouse, OLAP, BI and
Data Mining
. Database Development, Administration, and Architect
. Algorithm Design and Implementation
. Quantitative Analysis and Mathematical Modeling
. Princeton Ph.D. in Mathematics
. Extraordinary caliber of concentration and focus
. Passion for Data, BI, Quantitative and Analytical Work
Communication, Presentation, Concentration
and People Skills . Strong Communication and
Interpersonal skills
. Able to interface and mingle with people at all levels
. Outstanding in delivering training and presentation
. Unmatched level of concentration to work with data & code
Please email your complete copy of resume with contact details for
consideration.
Srinivas Ganadinni
T I 631 470 8282 F I 631 629 4704
Email - srinivasg@novostinc.com
Web - <http://www.novostconsulting. > www.novostconsultincom/ g.com
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas >ganadinni
http://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas ganadinni
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My latest HR Blog Notions article
Posted by: "Terrence Seamon" thseamon@yahoo.com thseamon
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:23 pm (PDT)
Here is my latest blog post for HR Blog Notions...
http://hr.blognotions.com/2010/ 06/18/some- companies- say-only- employed- may-apply/
...where I rant about the recent practice of some employers who are barring the unemployed from applying to job openings.
Feel free to leave a comment and/or to forward.
Terry
Terrence Seamon
(732) 246-3014 home/office
(732) 715-8218 cell
thseamon@yahoo.com
http://terrenceseamon.intuitwebsite s.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/in/thseamon
http://twitter.com/tseamon
http://learningvoyager.blogspot. com/
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